how long does it take to code a cool roguelike from scratch

>>252827119
5-6 years

tome

>>252829547
good roguelike

Does anybody know the mechanic for failure/success for gain health and gain energy potions in Mage Guild?
Does the success chance change over time, based on sphere collection, level depth, or what? Is it just random? Trying to be efficient with permanence/duplication.

>>252830283
It's been a long time, but as I recall the more potions you use to raise your health and energy, the lower the chances that future ones will work.

Alright bros, I am the anon from before. Looked for a python tutorial and I can't even get through step one, which apparently requires me to run an executable that doesn't exist. I'm done with coding forever.

>>252834084
Never mind, I did it. A bright future awaits me

>>252834084
gotta learn the basics of python first, lad

iron imp

>>252834084
I remember doing this python tutorial many years ago (or at least a previous version of it):
http://inventwithpython.com/invent4thed/
Not about roguelikes though.

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>>252826825 (OP)
You fucked up the link to the prvious thread
>>252654570 →

Also could have probably added Sil-Q 1.4.2 and Nethack 3.6.2 to the news.

>>252840583
I just saw you guys died and made a new thread. My apologies it is not up to your usual standards.

>>252827119
7 days.

>>252844002
Factually true

bampu

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Frozen Depths anon here. I have finally cleared the 34th floor and I'm preparing to face the boss. What do

It was inevitable.

>>252848617
Hit him until he dies

>>252848617
Save the game.

Which roguelike has the best soundtrack?

>>252850651
NetHack

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Can anyone link me some good escape music? Because I have to get the fuck out of here as soon as humanly possible

>>252852956
https://youtu.be/0jgrCKhxE1s [Embed]

>>252853069
That totally fits

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>>252852956
Congrats so far anon

>>252853154
Enjoy bro but don't forget to take your time if shit gets too crazy. It's still a turn-based game anon

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It's over bros. I tried.

>>252853705
F

>>252853705
RIP

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SIKE! I WAS ACTUALLY RUNNING FOR A FUCKING ALTAR. I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PIETY BUT I MANGED TO REACH IT AT THE LAST TURN, SACRIFICE MY SHIT AND PRAY! THERE IS HOPE!

>>252853925
Youuuuuu sonofabitch. Are you doing it, anon?

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>>252853925
Oh my

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

f5 f5 f5 f5

>>252854337
How do you get colder in this game?

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>>252854337
I defeated the boss on D34 instead of D35. Not a big difference. If it wasn't for that, I would have actually died, so that's fine. But the game ain't won yet lads. At least I have a decent strategy now.

>>252854887
Based. Now rest up and repeat!

>>252854887
Fug. Will you message him and tell him all about it?

>>252855230
I will tell him how much of a nigger he is and link him this thread

>>252854887
Is this the first time someone's ever actually defeated the boss and made it out alive?

I found the entrance to the minotaur labyrinth in dcss. I don't want to attempt it yet. Will the entrance decay if I leave the level it is on or can I go clear lair or something then come back?

>>252855393
According to the lore, it is. Some korean dude probably defeated the game without ever taking damage, but let's stay true to the traditional history.

>>252853336
That from IVAN?

>>252855708
DCSS

>>252854887
Congratulations, anon! What was your build and strategy?

>>252855943
>build
two handed weapon dwarf warrior. I never used throwing weapons because I couldn't be arsed. I figured two handed weapons are better because they deal so much extra damage, whereas the extra armor would let you tank one or two more hits, but this might be wrong. I also made sure I always had enough gold for a resurrection, the first thing I did was sell stuff to get it at the lowest price.

But what really carried me through this game were two abilities: dash and knockback. These two (combined with destroy walls) actually allowed me to escape 300% speed heroes without even having to worry. I was able to get out of a tight corridor packed with powerful enemies, even though I was surrounded, thanks to destroy wall, dash and knockback. They are essential.

>>252854887
Very nice, are you going to make another pastebin with your strategy?

>>252856351
The general strategy was
>accurate style for most enemies
>defensive style only in extremely rare situations where it made sense
>fast style when running away (every two seconds)
>brutal style only when enemies were stunned or couldn't act, since it reduces armour by 10

>>252854843
After defeating the boss, you can pray for cold. The secondary source are spotted seeds, which have a 50% chance of cooling you. I had eight of them, and by the time I reached the altar at 5 HP, I had 0. Potions of frost cool you very slightly but the damage they deal to you makes it not worth it, and I had to learn that the hard way. Frozen pools also cool you, but I didn't have any this game.

>>252854887
back to the general after a long time, what game is this ?

>>252860205
Frozen Depths I believe

>>252860205
Read above: frozen depths. No one was able to both defeat the final boss and escape the dungeon until today.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/bmupzd/i_got_silq_running_on_my_typewriter_the_backwards/
>Yes, I note the unconventional approach to spatial mapping through logarithm-assisted emulation of Intel hardware followed by a percussive transform to get the render step. It's quite intriguing, how you've done it, and I don't believe I would ever have thought of it.
>Merged.
>Anyone up for tackling Mac?

Sil-Q gets typewriter support before Mac support.

>>252862959
https://github.com/sil-quirk/sil-q/blob/master/src/main-typew.txt
This one is a bit tricky, you have type the output manually. And because of the limited computing power of the Typewriter,
you'll have to do most of the computing on Graph paper with the help of a slide rule.

Algorithm for running Sil-Q on a typewriter:
1. Compile the source into assembly using the makefile for GCU mode sicne that will give you an output that can be typed out on your typewriter.
2. Copy out the relevant diagrams and tables for an x86-64 precessor, you'll need these in your calculations.
3. Take out your slide rule and graph paper
4. Start crunching numbers, this step may take up to several years. Be patient and DON'T PANICK.
5. Type out the resulting output on your typewriter.
6. Mark your desired input in a notebook, then repeat step 4. from where you left off taking into account the input you just wrote down.
7. Type out the resulting output either below your previous output or on top of it using an eraser ribbon or white out.

The game can now be played by repeating steps 6. and 7. , All on your very own typewriter!

>>252862959
>have to cut down half the amazon rainforest just to play one game of Sil

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>ziggurat
>early panlord level, I'm not really strong enough for these yet
>quaff every pot and spam god abilities
>miraculously survive
>feeling invincible
>looted some armors and rings
>juggle combinations a bit to see which set will offer best protection and resistances
>enter portal
>lair level, easy
>wait why am I getting so much damage
>8 AC
>forgot to put body armor back on
>can't cblink because heavenly storm is active
Splat.

>you begin slowing down

I need a name for a character, one that is so good that it will prevent me from dying.

>>252868564
Fred the Unkillable

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>>252868830
Thanks, but it's too long

>>252868952
>name length limit
>unicode not supported
Is it not the current year?

>>252854887
well done, lad

>>252868564
Kel'Thuzad

>>252827119
As long as it takes.

>>252868952
Immortal Bob

roguelikes, how about 'em, huh?

>>252874251
I like them because they are fun, strategic and challenging.

>>252874251
fault

>>252808439 →
That gif is great

>>252874564
Wait so DCSS isn't a roguelike?

>>252876848
You are correct.

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Trying out this new Ambush ability in Sil-Q and oh boy can you do a lot of damage as a stealth archer.
If you combine it together with Deadly Hail and Rout you can probably chain kills together like crazy.

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>>252878195
Oh my, and I get an artifact helmet.

>>252878195
Have you seen the new dragon-horn bows
They must do crazy damage with a dedicated archer

>>252879872
The objects.txt says it has 4d2 damage and weighs 4.5lb.

Lets say you have 3 strength and shoot at an unwary enemy with the deadly hail bonus and get a double crit, that's 14d5 if I'm not mistaken. Maximum 70 damage, pretty good.

hello do you have pictures of Kai's elona adventures

>>252880780
search the archives, they're probably there on /jp/

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I'm the only one who feels uneasy and nervous while playing C:DDA? This game give me a strange feeling that something terrible will happen or pop up if I try to explore those weird locations.

Cooking: the roguelike when?

>>252883562
You're supposed to feel that way

>>252885475
I'm looking forward to your cooking roguelike, anon.

>>252887061
I don't want to make one, though.

>>252887570
Sounds like an interesting idea, hopefully we can play your cooking roguelike soon.

>filthy rag deals 20 damage 1.19 blows at level 19

Kill me

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>>252887656

DCSS isn't fun as a video game experience. It's more fun in a chess way.

What roguelikes have great core combat mechanics?
Hard mode: no sil
God mode: no doomrl

>>252893997
elona

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>>252893997
Lufia 2

Extra life!

>>252885475
That's Caves of Qud

>>252892024
That makes no sense

Does CDDA have obesity yet?

>>252899295
>That makes no sense
Single player video games are typically about enjoying the ride, not the destination. There's nothing to enjoy about DCSS's ride (current DCSS at least), it's a very repetitive and bland ride. The fun in DCSS comes from employing learned tactics to overcome obstacles and win, like chess.

>>252899574
Sounds like you're looking for a thread long autistic argument.

>>252899851
fuck

>>252899574
roguelikes are traditionally not about enjoying the ride, but about getting to the end. they're a type of puzzle where the gameplay is a sort of meta-gameplay that is learning to solve the game and the reward is knowing what happens when you finish the game, and the fulfillment from knowing that you managed to beat the game. this is why there's a relatively greater emphasis on spoilers. that winstreak speedrunning mentality is a modern adaptation.

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Hell yeah, snipin' dragons.

why aren't you playing roguelikes on a Friday night/Saturday morning, /rlg/?

>>252900928
>there's a relatively greater emphasis on spoilers
Explain the popularity of Nethack.

>>252904635
i'm not sure what there is to explain. it's just a very old and very hard game and not many people play it anymore. i really like nethack, it's my favorite roguelike.

MOTHERFUCKING SHIT NIGGERING PUSSY FARTS

Of COURSE a water elemental has a two-tile frost aura, of course. Because the living water only has a one-tile aura, I should have expected that the big one has a two-tile aura, because that's the only way I could have expected that I'd be taking damage at a distance, because it's not like you can actually SEE the fucking aura!

Fuck Rogue's Tale. Why is it so infuriating? Why is it so goddamn addictive? I'm like a battered wife at this point. I know the next death is just going to be more bullshit that I had no fucking way of predicting, but I'm going to do it anyway, because I'll be damned if I let this fucking game beat me.

>>252905318
Learn English.

>>252905559
this is shilling and must be deleted

>>252904303 →

>>252905678
show me my mistake

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>>252904635
>nethack

funny you should mention that particular roguelike,I just wish there was a way to change the player's character sprite like in certain versions of DCSS

>>252905810
You type like a 5 year old and failed to understand the context of the post you was replying to.

>>252905913
this doesn't count as showing

FUCKING inventory management. I need to drop this 0 charge wand, but I KNOW as soon as I do it, I guarantee that the next floor will have a recharge wand on it.

>>252906002
Learn reading comprehension

>>252905726
Eat my filthy, slimy asscrack you fucking Jew.

>>252905913
also >was
lol
not a good time to be doing this

>>252906070
show me my mistake

>>252905913
Stop trying to bait replies.

>>252900928
>the reward is knowing what happens when you finish the game
Yeah I'm sure the usual brief win message is what gets people out of bed in the morning
>greater emphasis on spoilers
haha no
>mentioning winstreak speedrunning for no reason

There are better ways to bump the thread you know?

I pressed 'o left' instead of 'u o left' and now I'm dead.
Roguelikes.

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>>252907808
SAY IT WITH ME NOW:
F
A
U
L
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!

>>252899574
Counterpoint: I enjoy grinding.

What the fuck happened to the hunger system in DDA? You can eat a ton of food and 5 minutes later you're hungry again. What fat ass programmed that shit in?

>>252910028
Kevin "Mcdonaldforbreakfast" Tyler

>>252905913
Learn English.

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>>252910148
god damn how do I even fix this autism

>>252910705
>checks for hunger every 10 mins and then sets it to static values based on how much food there is still on your stomach instead of just making eating give you calories and those calories slowly get used up
god that is some spaghetti.

>>252910028
I haven't actually played with the new hunger system, but from what I gathered by description, it's now impossible to see your actual nutrition level.
Instead, you see how full your stomach feels.
So you can eat some calorie-dense food and you'll satisfy your actual nutritional need, but your stomach will still be empty so you'll see Hungry indicator.
Or you can eat tons of empty filling which will just stuff your stomach without actually providing nutrition, so you'll be still starving but your hunger indicator would be showing that you are Full.

It's also written by a guy who doesn't check that his code actually works.
For example, his initial version which he claimed was "ready for merge testing" had a sign for beverage quench removal inverted so drinking liquids made you more parched.

>>252910705
>if five_mins > 0
>not if five_mins
dabbing on those spaghetticucks

>>252910028
The food digestion system is currently being reworked to allow for obesity and so on. There are however no consequences for being fat yet.
You don't need to eat food just because you are hungry.

>>252911539
So how do I keep track of how much food I do need?

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Where do all those artefact tridents come from?

>>252911614
That is a fucking godly trident. Anyways, a bunch of merfolk lords probably had some duels down there and got picked off by something hungry after wearing each other down.

>>252911843
>godly
>-4 str
oh no no no

>>252911590
Eat when you are "famished" or worse.

>>252911976
+11 elec with two good resists (albeit one is useless as a General Tso worshiper) is really, really nice. That strength modifier doesn't mean shit unless you're a hybrid.

>>252910028
> Currently, your survivor needs about 2500 kcals every day.
> Hunger is different from your physical caloric needs, and is instead based on the volume of food in your stomach - and the time since you last ate
> If you are hungry, but don’t really need to eat - your hunger display will show hungry
> If you are hungry, but need to eat - your hunger display will show very hungry
> If you are hungry, and have a kcal deficit - your hunger display will show famished, and with a severe deficit starving
> Your kcal count is internally measured out of 77000 kcals, and you can see how much in deficit/surplus you are by turning on debug mode.

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what happens if I drink it bros

>>252912170
BRO IT'S ESTROGEN DON'T

>>252912054
>>252912149
So what's the point of having "hungry" displayed?
Just to completely mislead players?

>>252912458
unironically immersion as a given reason.

>>252912540
Eating half a moose and being a hungry again after ten minutes is really immersive.
I can really feel like I'm Kevin.

>>252911976
Is strength actually good? Last time I checked I was advised to invest into dexterity instead (Or Intelligence for casters)

>>252912458
Well, I dunno. I'm guessing it's just supposed to be realistic.
Also, as far as I understand, it takes time for your body to actually absorb the calories of the food you're eating, which might mean that it's better to eat before you actually run into a calorie deficit. (At least once they actually programmed consequences for calorie deficit.) It will probably eventually become a balancing act between eating too soon and getting fat or eating too late and having your body digest itself.

>>252910148
>>252912639
The system rework has nothing to do with Kevin. It's by some guy called KorGgenT.
https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/getting-very-hungery-with-over-60-000-calories/19704

>>252912641
Somewhere along the way they changed how stats work and made dexterity useless.
Basically strenghtening reduces armor penalty and increases weapon damage with all weapons.
Back then Dex would also increase weapon damage when using small weapons

>>252912827
There's nothing realistic about this.
You're not living the live of a programmer who sits on their ass all day, it's the zombie apocalypse.
Obesity is the least of your problems.

Kevin merged this crap into the main branch even though it's retarded and buggy as shit, he's definitely responsible.

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>tfw you enter a 40% black floor

>>252913018
If it's buggy as shit then post bug reports instead of complaining about le kevin.

>>252913236
I rather revert to a commit before this crap was introduced.
A bug report saying "this is fucking retarded" won't get very far.

>>252913357
>A bug report saying "this is fucking retarded" won't get very far.
Yes, that is the point.

>>252913706
I could write a whole well-reasoned essay of why it's bad but you fucking know it's a wasted effort.
Have you ever seen Kevin REMOVE a new overly complicated and pointless broken feature?
How long was ranged combat broken again for an "overhaul" that still offers little benefit?

caves of CRUD

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Nice game

>>252914352
Shoot, wait, other action.

>>252913201
Game?

>>252915612
Frozen depths

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I don't mind the gender stuff. But can't the devs see other people don't care?

>>252916301
Can't you see that other people care?

>>252916301
Mmm, the delicious taste of slacktivism.

>>252916513
Oh fuck yes. They care so much if you give an inch of disagreement they'll say your brain is fucked up.

>>252916739
Oh. For some reason I read that twitter post at first as being anti-genderstuff. I'm tired.

>>252912641
Dex is hardcapped for dodging and other actions and stuff to like 28 or 38 or so? Str scales much better on otabs

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>>252826825 (OP)
Newfag here. Are there any roguelikes for Linux (laptop)? Is it possible to make roguelikes on Linux?

>>252920447
Most roguelikes are on Linux

>>252921002
Good to know, thanks.

>the game spawns a 300% speed upgraded enemy that instantly chugs all the piety I gathered in the past 15 floors
fault

>>252920447
Yes, check your repo. So far I've seen angband, nethack, powder, dcss and tome. You can also use wine to run win rls like elona with little to no issues (mostly midi problem, just install timidity and switch in-game music to MCI). No luck for caves of kek though

>>252916301
Am I missing something to the drama here? The tweet you posted is clearly responding to other people who DO care. Unless he's just mistaken and there's nobody complaining about non-binary genders? But that seems super unlikely, there are people who are so incapable of separating them self from their political circlejerk outrage culture that they'll complain about anything that seems slightly "sjw" regardless of context. Unless I'm misunderstanding something it seems hard to believe that "people don't care"

>>252916301
Is that guy holding two pieces of shit in his pic

>>252926612
lol, the irony of exonerating sjws whilst accusing a "political circlejerk outrage culture"

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Not used to playing non Formicids anymore. Game was kind enough to remind me how though!

>>252927296
>*Rage
Fault incoming

>>252885475
I want tinfoilhatrl. You go to a secret base in antarctica, fight jews, reptilians, pleiadians, freemadons, iluminatti, and win by proving the world is flat. You also use mkultra psychic powers to help your journey

>>252928079
i'm careful enough for now, i learned to be maining Formicid. not having teleport/blink/haste will really change your strategys

>>252904560
I’m playing dwarf fortress :P

>>252904560
coding and playing Dominions

Are there any races with inherent clarity?

>>252931853
no, that would be racist

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>>252931894
l-lol??

TGGW is pretty fun

brogue more like BRUHgue amirite

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You guys think I should do holy wrath onto this eveningstar? Distortion is stupid and getting annoying

>the game spawns a 300% speed enemy right next to you that takes away half your hp with each hit
To be fair, I did do a thing that has a chance of spawning a random monster. Fault.
Frozen depths is bullshit guys. That winning run was beginner's luck, this game is a fucking torture

>>252936427
Yes lol, youre worshipping tso

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>>252936427
>Not secure

>>252937043
omg
quick
how do i change my IP

>>252937043
ъeъ

>>252936883
was thinnking of maybe saving it for this broadaxe too since its already +5 and i already did axes to mindelay

>>252937891
Oh, then get an exec axe or broad axe + shield, i suppose if youre a bit scared

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>>252937985
not sure if i want to run exe axe, so used to having 2h+ shield. broad axe should be good enough right
i have literally every option right now, and two eveningstars, one i rebranded to freeze at +5

Maxwell's Coffin on DDFi, y/n?

>>252936669
Duh, the fucking game is a nightmare. I usually make it to the 3rd boss with a LOT of consumable burn but sometimes the game just shits on you and makes every wand a Nightmare one that'll summon a Fierce/Superior something to shit on you

>>252938748
Yeah, broad axe is just fine

>>252938758
Is that the platearmor or head cage?

>>252939027
Armor. I also found Frostbite on L:6. Can I please be allowed to tab now PLEASE

>>252938748
What gameame?

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so far so good i'd say
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Ketziah/Ketziah.txt
hopefully i can find some decent boots gloves or a shield sometime

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>this item

Seething Chaos

Glowing Shitshifter

>>252945705
grazing doesn't sound very hedonic

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At what distance can fungal spores infect you?

>>252949249
Yes

>>252949249
A bit too late to be asking that

>>252949249
Just wear a filter mask, famalady.

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>>252949249

>>252949623
I'm like 80 spaces away

>>252949207
Grazing can be slang for just eating slowly and constantly throughout the day. Like "I didnt have lunch or dinner today, I have just been grazing since I woke up from my nap.". Seems pretty hedonic to me.

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>giant 8x8 room walled off with 3 rows of doors and then 4 giant runed doors on depths:4
Hurmmmm

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>>252955835
You don't have the nerve.

>>252956009
I mean how bad could it be? A. Liches, gold dragons and juggernauts? Oooooh so scary

>>252956171
inb4

>>252925084
Thanks again, another anon.

>>252956171
I really wish Zot traps could give -Tele as a temp mutation, as the perfect "fuck you" for late game play.

How are you supposed to keep pets alive in Brogue? It feels like as soon as any caustic gas or fire appears my pets are doomed because of how retarded their ai is

what are your favourite roguelikes to play casters in?

>>252963002
I'm not a brainlet, so none

Would you rather learn to play a couple of coffee break roguelikes, or focus entirely on a beefy roguelike like Nethack?

>>252927296
>using anything with rage
>current year

>>252966281
It carried me to elf:2 hall of blades where I got a distortion one. It's all about positioning and threat management
Being cross trained in axes to almost mace mindelay also helped forsurethough

>>252963002
Angband makes a fun caster. Nethack too, nethack spells are so op it makes it pretty fun at least before you get the amulet and energy costs go up a lot.

>>252827119
A game that's actually "like Rogue" takes a few days to create.
A game like DCSS with lots of content/options, both a terminal and graphical mode and neat stuff like search features, maps and dungeon management is another thing. I suspect balancing a game of that scale is an evergoing work too.

>fell down a shaft into the boss floor with 50 hp

cool

>>252968204
Just like in the movies. Now is your time to shine.

>>252966084
A couple of coffee break RLs, so I can actually learn from my mistakes instead of having to check spoilers for everything in case it ruins my hours long run

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fug :DDD

>>252966084
Gun to my head, probably the coffee break ones, but ONLY if they truly can be learned and beaten within a day or two of starting if you're non-terrible. Otherwise, I'll choose a beefy RL, but only if it's not as spoiler-laden as Nethack -- something like Angband with monster spoilers activated is perfectly beefy.

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I'm on DL25 bros, will probably defeat the fourth boss with ease. But I'm gonna be busy all week so I'll see you. I know you all come to this general just to see my posts so I'll be there

>>252975582
gl Tod

>>252963002
Larn

>>252976278
Isn't every character in larn a caster? Or maybe its more like no character in larn is a caster...

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>>252968204
it's the only way to play

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hm
wish i tried nets like 3 or 5 years ago
didn't realize he was only "large" size
fuckin 'a

>>252980779
I'm playing my first fofi (of zin, should I go TSO?) , any tips on how to skill? Do you really do the whole dig a murder hole deal?

>>252980779
You killed her?

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>>252984762
really you only need one up (left or right) and one down (same) in some spots. usually i dont even bother
the real thing to learn is engaging knowing you cant tele
and yes i suggest TSO because cleansing flame at 20+invo destroys entire game
>>252985432
yea, lig'd and cleansing flame spam murdered everything

side onte
holy fuck i hope zin can purify me with only 7 mut pots
mnoleg and slime did me super dirty this game

White women fuck dogs.

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OI13QHT2Y4GNP`

playing gargoyle should be considered cheating

holy shit i havent seen dispersal traps as a non formicid yet
tomb is nasty as FUCK now
i dont even know WHAT'S going on

>>252984762
also shafting in hell is nice, bring mapping scrolls though. and abuse the 2h+shield ability. its literally the only reason to play them

>>252984762
Not the guy you're replying to, but yes, 100% until you're untouchable (which isn't hard on a FoFi).

Remember: digging as a Formicid is essentially free, and you should dig even if you're in danger as long as your back is to a wall -- you literally have no other escape options (besides shafting). Murder holes don't need to be complicated: just make sure only one monster can possibly be seen.

V:5 should be shafted into -- you'll hopefully land away from the center, which is massively dangerous with -Tele and no haste.

With my FoFi, I leveled shields knowing that every major break point was at a 1/5 of the skill required for a given shield type (so, for the regular shield, every 1.8 skill levels, since Fo penalty is eliminated at 9 skill). I always recommend maces and flails since mindelay is easily achieved, they're common, Formicids don't have great physical apts, and both the best 2H option (great mace) and best speed option (demon whip) are solid.

Otherwise, it's the same skilling as other otab types: get some Armour and Dodging, maybe some Invo and Evo as needed, maybe other ranged options, and do the whole "offense -> other options/defense -> defense/other options -> rinse and repeat" thing.

I highly recommend skilling Shields a bit earlier than other defense options, tho, as it will help lower your attack speed and give a big boost to your defense, all while not costing too much XP due to Formicids' good shield aptitude. Shield+weapon is usually a good starting skill choice, IMO.

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Majin-Bo is a female now? what the fuck?

i really dont like the way tomb totally manhandles you now holy shit
just going to go for the 14

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once again i skipped tomb but sometime ill get back around to it
ive only gotten it 3 times ever

>>252986990
Yeah, welcome to die.

>>252987642
I think it's been that way for a bit.

>>252987642
Sexist sjw feminist bigots are slowly corrupting everything they can get their filthy clutches on.

>>252987642
>not wanting to give you life essence to a sexy demon

>>252991786
It's insane isn't it? They say oh it's not a big deal and then proceed to flip shit over genders and then get their way; then someone will ask hey what's the deal with all the focus on gender now and you'll be called out for misogyny and trans hate when in reality some of us just wonder why. Fucking pricks. Even roguelikes aren't safe anymore. Fucking something awful faggots. FUCK.
Just make everything female at least then it will stay constant. Or would they then shoehorn in some fucked backstory "this elite ventured into the dungeon to seek the orb to make a gender transition" etc etc
Sickening

>>252992726
I can't discern the reason for your anger through the sheer amount of dandruff you just snowed onto my screen.

>>252993250
It's pretty clear he is annoyed by the leftist sexist crusading and their anti male agenda.

>>252993250
Damn. You didn't spilll your MTN dew did you Cherry Lucia Rainbowdiamond? Hopefully it didn't get in your gaping gash. Don't forget to dilate

Good night, /rlg/

General advice for a TrMo^Qazlal?

>>252992726
It's open source just fork your own little incel nazi branch or whatever

>>252994179
Dunno
Play standard but be prepared late game for absolutely entire floors bumrushi g you
Pray for early gold dragon armour? You're UC RIGHT? Get a shield in orc or earlier

>>252995139
ofc

shield doesn't like take away any UC attacks right? once you've got enough skill to take away penalty?

>>252994278
or you can fork your own progressive paradise build instead of demanding the core game be changed for your garbage
but no
the idea behind the post youre responding to is lost on you isnt it
youre totally fucked

>>252996213
Have sex.

>>252996316
Stop changing sexes

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>knife spear breaks after killing one (1) zombie

This argument reminds me of the time they changed "
_Sorry, you're not good enough to have a special ability." for something less "offensive" and the commit only lasted like 4 days

>>252997132
working as intended

>>252997132
Craft wooden spear / forked spear instead.
Knife spear is a meme weapon now.

>>252997770
>things that never happened

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>walk around to avoid a five headed hydra
>run into a six headed one immediately
Hurm. Got a few charges of disintegrate. Maybe I'll just hit lair instead.

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>>253000454
>Gozag troll
madman

>>253000689
well at least whenever i need food i can buy a mechant...to buy food from...
FUCK

Why is no one playing doomrl? Its basically like dcss but with actually interesting and satisfying combat, truly varied weapons, classes and builds, and no bloat at all.

wait dragons wont drop scales as gozag will they

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>>253001735

>>252997132
Try to attach knife to a wooden stick with some fucking twine or ducktape (lol) and then repeatedly smack at something with enough force to kill, even dirt in your backyard will do if you dont have anything better, report back with how many seconds it will last for.

>>253001795
those MOTHERFUCKERS

>>253001735
>play Gozag
>lack an endgame weapon
>I'll just visit the hall of blades in E:2
>exec axe of flaming, just what I need
>let me just kill it so it drops the weapon as a corpse
>fuck

>>253002089
Summon some shops, goy.

well at least gozag shops are weighted to sell things you can actually use right?? lol
i know i'll get my GDA by vaults 2 just watch bitches
but yea Tr^gozag is kinda hectic

>>253000454
>>253002225
Don't you run out of food?

>>253003295
not really, been sitting at 8-15 rations since I went gozag, and can always buy food stores. i think i get 350~ turns per. i for sure didn't consider the dragon armor situation though. we'll see how orc goes

Is nuzlocking a roguelike

Is cogmind party-approved?

>>253004728
Nope. Not a roguelike

>>253004728
Not a rl, also a shit game.

>>253005968
>also a shit game
Why so?

>>253000454
Just find a mace, ruks or a scimitar/axe with flame on it and kill the hydras, piece of cake

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you know, it's a lot funnier an hour later

>>253004728
It would be, if it wouldn't cost money.

>>253006373
Is that the fucking Amulet of the Four Winds? Why were you not wearing that?

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>>253006731
I was rollin' in it, anon

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>>253007313
Now that's a FAULT.

>>253006373
>>253007669
They should just make it so every race spawns with gourmand mutation already.
It provides no status bonuses and arguarbly doesn't help non-trolls, felids and kobolds at all, but it makes the game so much more convenient I always feel bad removing it for a better amulet

DCSS noob here, is there any point in wearing 2 rings of positive energy?

>>253008412
When fighting people with spells that are of 'darker' side, something like undead stuff or skeletons that can drain you or hit you with dark spells, since each ring gives one pip of rN and it helps a lot later on, especially against drain

>>253008412
two rings give stacking benefits, but you're almost always going to be better off diversifying your resistances or even just wearing like a +2 stat ring since so few attacks inflict the type of damage rings of positive energy defend against

>>253008052
They should just make it so every race spawns with the orb of zot already, that way you'll be able to win for once

Does the orb still appear in inventory, or is it some hidden thing now?

>>253009219
It appears on the rune display.

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>>253008879
What the fuck are you on about, this game is easy as fuck

>>253009321
>can't throw the orb in lava
>can't fall in lava
man

>>253009607
They removed it because it was too OP/Fun, like giving the pandemonium pizza to cerebrov

>>253006269
Answer me.
Or is this just another hating-games-you-haven't-played thing?

>>253009581
>recommended combos
you probably looked at the wiki more than 50 times too

>>253009736
t. winlet